Jerry reflects on the profound emotions of fatherhood, from holding Camren and Brianna for the first time to navigating grief while raising them. Alongside Bianca, they explore fatherhood's unspoken struggles, mental health, and the importance of teaching emotional intelligence. This heartfelt discussion offers guidance and support for fathers embracing their roles.
Jerry McRae
You know, I still remember the first time I held Camren in my arms. It was like, um, this overwhelming wave of love... and fear all at once. I looked at Kelly said, "How do we even do this? How do we raise this tinyâtiny human into someone we can be proud of?"
Bianca
Whew, I gotta tell you, JerryâI felt that, but like times three! When my first one came, I was just like, "Wait, ME? Youâre trusting ME with this baby?" It's wild how love just takes over, even when you're scared outta your mind.
Jerry McRae
Right, and itâs not just love, but this sense of vulnerability too, isnât it? Like, Iâd never felt so exposed, so capable of being hurt. Thatâs what being a father didâit, um, it cracked something open in me, something I didnât even know was closed.
Bianca
Oh, for sure. Especially as moms, and I know your wife Kelly can attest to this but weâre kinda taught to wear our emotions on our sleeves. But dads? Man, societyâs standing there like, "Nah, you donât get to feel anything. Just...just be strong and keep it movinâ."
Jerry McRae
Exactly. And the crazy part is...thatâs how so many fathers end up dealing with their emotionsâor, or not dealing with them, I should say. Itâs, uh, itâs this silent burden we carry, right? Society expects strength without vulnerability. And, well, thatâs just not sustainable.
Bianca
Not at all! And can we talk about how nobody even checks in on dads? Like, you see moms with the whole village rallying around them, but with dads? Crickets. Total radio silence.
Jerry McRae
Thatâs true, Bianca. But you know, IâIâd like to think my own father set such a different example. I mean, my dad, he, uh, he embodied strength and love equally. He worked tirelessly to provide for us, yet he never hesitated to show affection, to tell us he loved us, to remind me how proud he was of me.
Bianca
Wow, Jerry. Thatâsâthatâs beautiful. Sounds like your dad was one of a kind.
Jerry McRae
He really was. And his faith, it was... well, it was like this guiding light for him. Every decision, every action, it stemmed from that faith. And now, I tryâI try every dayâto carry that forward with Camren and Brianna. I want to show them that same balance of, um, of strength and love that he showed me.
Jerry McRae
You know, thinking back on the strength and love my dad showed meâwhen he passed, IâI felt like Iâd lost my anchor. It wasnât just his presence that I missed, but the guidance he gave me, the security I drew from him. And now, as a father myself, it was hardâso hardâto process that grief while still trying to carry forward what he taught me every day with Camren and Brianna.
Bianca
I canât even imagine, Jerry. Like, how do you even balance that? Grieving while, you know, still showing up for your kids? That just sounds... so heavy.
Jerry McRae
It isâwas, I mean. But I realized pretty quickly that hiding my pain wasnât the answer. IâI didnât want them to think sadness, orâor even admitting youâre struggling, was something to be ashamed of. So, Iâd talk to them about what I was feeling. In, uh, in age-appropriate ways, of course. And they... well, they started opening up too. It was like we were carrying it together, instead of me holding it all alone.
Bianca
Dang, I love that. Like, how you made it okay for them to see you being vulnerable. Thatâs gotta be so powerful for them, right? To know itâs okay for dads to feel things too?
Jerry McRae
Absolutely. And it wasnât easy, Bianca. There were days... there still are days, where it feels like too much, like Iâm failing them somehow. But then I remind myself that just being honestâjust being thereâis enough. It really is.
Bianca
Oh, 100 percent. I mean, kids donât need perfect, they just need present. And, letâs be real, nobodyâs perfect anyway, you know?
Jerry McRae
Youâre right. And one thing I learned is that grief has no timeline. Noâno manual to follow. And honestly? Being open with my kids hasnât just helped themâitâs helped me too. Iâve been able to process so much just by talking to them, by hearing their little perspectives on things. Their resilience. Itâs, uh... itâs humbling.
Bianca
I feel that. Kids are so much tougher than we give them credit for. But at the same time, itâs up to us to kinda guide that, you know? Create a safe space where they can feel their feelings without feeling âtoo much.â You did that, Jerry. Youâre doinâ that.
Jerry McRae
I try, Bianca. Every day, I try. For me, it's not just about helping them copeâitâs about showing them how to turn pain into strength. How to keep living, loving, andâand thriving, even when life gets hard.
Jerry McRae
You know, thinking back on how Iâve navigated grief with Camren and Brianna, itâs really made me realize how much emotional intelligence shapes our relationships. Itâs not just about raising them to be strongâitâs about showing them that resilience means learning to feel, to process, and to grow from lifeâs challenges. With Camren, for example, Iâve been working on helping him manage setbacks, showing him that they donât define who he isâbut instead teach him how to move forward.
Bianca
Ooh, I love that, Jerry. And itâs not just about bouncing back, right? Itâs about understanding their emotions in the first place. Like, with my kids, Iâm always like, "Okay, youâre mad, but tell me why youâre mad." Getting them to name it, you know? That was a game changer for us.
Jerry McRae
Exactly, Bianca. Identifying emotions is such a huge part of it. With Camren, Iâve noticed that once he can name how he feelsâwhether itâs frustration or sadnessâit makes it easier for him to navigate, uh, how to respond to those emotions, instead of just reacting instinctually.
Bianca
Yeah, yeah, totally. And honestly, I think it's, like, just as important with daughters! My oldest, Tasha, she had this moment where she felt left out at school, and instead of just sulking, we sat and talked it out. And it was messyâlike, real tears messâbut by the end, she said, "Mom, IâI feel better now," and gave me the biggest hug. Those little wins? They matter so much.
Jerry McRae
They really do. And you know, I think itâs important for parents to acknowledge that raising emotionally aware kids means, well, doing that work ourselves too. Sometimes when Camren or Brianna are upset, it forces me to check in with my own feelings, to show them what healthy emotional intelligence looks like in action.
Bianca
Oh, for real. Like, our kids... theyâre little mirrors, right? If weâre showing patience and understanding, they pick up on that. But if weâre yelling and slamming doors, guess what theyâre gonna do?
Jerry McRae
Definitely. And, you know, studies even show that kids who develop emotional intelligence early tend to be more confident, more empathetic, and better at handling stressâeven as adults. So, as fathers, we have to, um, play an active role here. Itâs about breaking that old stereotype that dads are just... providers. Weâre so much more than that.
Bianca
Absolutely. Itâs, like, a two-way street. Moms and dads gotta work together on this. Dads need to show that itâs okay to feel, and moms need to make space for dads to do that. Itâs teamwork, right?
Jerry McRae
Right. Itâs a partnership. And honestly, Bianca, Iâve learned so much from just watching how Brianna navigates her feelings. And teaching her has been this mutual processâIâve had to unlearn some things about myself along the way too. Emotional intelligence isnât just for kids; itâs something we can all grow in, no matter how old we are.
Bianca
Preach, Jerry. And the best part is, when we do that, weâre kinda giving our kids a tool for life. Like, theyâll be able to handle whatever comes at 'em because they know how to feel things and not let it break âem. Thatâs powerful.
Jerry McRae
It really is. And, you know, at the end of the day, itâs not about being perfect parents. Itâs about being present and intentional. If we can do thatâif we can give our kids that emotional foundationâweâre setting them up to thrive, no matter what life throws their way.
Bianca
Couldnât have said it better myself. Well, Jerry, this has been such a great conversation. I swear, every time we talk, I leave with more to think aboutâand to try at home.
Jerry McRae
Same here, Bianca. Sharing these stories reminds me that all of usâmoms, dads, single parentsâweâre all just figuring it out, one day at a time. And thatâs okay.
Bianca
Yup, totally okay. Well, folks, thatâs it for today. Keep building those emotional bonds, keep showing up, and weâll see you next time. Take care!
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Jerry McRae shares his transformative journey of becoming a father and building emotional bonds with his children, Camren and Brianna. Joined by Bianca Torres, they discuss the evolving roles of fathers, breaking generational cycles, and the science behind fatherhoodâs emotional rewiring. He supports finacial education, breaking the back of poverty, exploring how modern parenting fosters healthier relationships and personal growth.
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